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October 23, 2009

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Miss Havisham?

Interesting choice! I wouldn't have thought of her, but . . . yeah, I can see it. In a very morbid, twisted way, of course!

Hmmm, for a man, I'll have to choose Pip. I'm not a big fan of Pip personally, but he has this life-long love affair with a girl he meets as I child, until he's in his 50s. So he's probably most consistently romantic.

For the woman, I'll say either Amy Dorrit or Lizzie Hexam. Both of these take a more active part in their romances than some of the other Dickens gals, by taking control of their romance in various ways instead of waiting around. :)

Allan Woodcourt is definitely a favorite for me, but I think Mr. Jarndyce is even more romantic. His love for Esther is so completely unselfish.
~Michelle
P.S. My first time to comment, but I've loved this blog for a while now! Thank you for your writings.

Thank you, Michelle, and welcome!

Ummm . . . Sydney Carton's a drunk. Not romantic.

What do you mean by most romantic? If we're choosing the guy who's the most attractive, as the mention of Mr. Darcy and Mr. Rochester would indicate, then I'm going to go with David Copperfield. Such a sweet boy. Pip's OK, but I like intelligence in a man, and Pip seems a little slow on the uptake.

Well, that's not Sydney's ONLY characteristic, and certainly not the reason I called him romantic. :-) That would be like saying that -- let's see, what's a good comparison . . . it would be like saying that Edmund is one of the bad guys in the Chronicles of Narnia because he's a traitor. It's true, but it's not the case for the whole series, and ultimately it's not what defines him.

I think Sydney Carton ultimately probably gives the most for his love, but then again he didn't have much to live for anyway. However he certainly has the most textbook romance. :)

@Semicolon, much as I love him, I'll have to admit that I don't think David is more intelligent than Pip. David is pretty much a dunce when it comes to figuring out others' emotions (including a girl who loves him for like ten years and shows it) until the last few chapters of the book. ;)

Hmm. Interesting question. Dickens does some great romantic characters. Sydney I'd give a vote to because his love is definitely among the most unselfish love of any character in literature. I'd give a vote to Eugene Wrayburn for the way Lizzie Hexum loves him, for the way he deals with Bradley Headstone when the schoolmaster's stalking him (I don't know why; for some reason I find his cool insolence strangely attractive), and for the way he reforms. I find reformation terribly romantic. Nicholas Nickleby, of course, is the knight-errant kind of romantic, going around saving people. Arthur Clennam I find irresistibly romantic for his terrible childhood and the way he overcomes it and the way Little Dorrit loves him. And along the lines of self-sacrificing love is poor Tom Pinch, the true hero of "Martin Chuzzlewit," with far more sheer goodness than Sydney (but also far more blindness and, dare I say it, stupidity).
On the other hand, one of Dickens' least-romantic romantic heroes is young Martin Chuzzlewit. Complete twit, up until the end.

Arthur Clennam and Amy Dorrit. Yup yup yup.

I agree Christy, I was just thinking today how much of a jerk Martin Chuzzlewit was for most of the book. Of course, I admit that was kind of a nice change from some of the other Dickens heroes who are all basically similar. Meanwhile we have Tom Pinch acting more like a Dickensian heroine usually acts. ;)

Oh, and can't forget Pecksniff the Pervert.

I'd have to agree with Nibs and choose Pip. His heart aches to be with Estella, and to have someone that devoted to you, that has to count for something. :)

I can see why Rochester won; I don't like him as much as I used to, but he does change his ways in the end, which is a quality not many characters who are considered romantic have. I'm kind of surprised that Mr Thornton from North & South isn't on the list, but Gabriel Oak did!?

Sydney Carton, to me, is probably the most romantic of Dickens's characters; he gave all he could for the happiness of the person he loved, and that is real love. Besides him, I'd also say Nickleby (Christy's description is perfect!), he's such a great guy, and Arthur Clennam.

Sydney Carton had nothing to live for? He had, for the most part, quit drinking, and one imagines his legal skills would have gained more success as he got his life in order. But more importantly, all he had to do was keep quiet, and within a year or so would have been married to the widow Darnay. No - I have to give him the nod here.

Hey, Greg! Thanks for dropping by.

I don't think Lucie would have married Carton. For one thing, she didn't love him. She was sorry for him, but that was all. And for another, it was hinted that she probably would have pined away and died like her mother before her, from the shock of what happened to her husband. (They can do that in books!)

On the other hand, Carton has a great line, right after Darnay's last trial: "Of little worth as life is when we misuse it, it is worth that effort. It would cost nothing to lay down if it were not." So I think he would have agreed that everyone, even someone as depressed and self-loathing as he was, has something to live for.

Smike (for reasons you can certainly guess).

Smike is a great choice. He's such a dear.

I'll put my vote in for Joe Gargery. I don't think anyone could be as devoted, as kind, as tender-hearted towards his mate as Joe. What a wonderful lover was/is Joe Gargery!!!

My picks for most romantic female characters:

Florence Dombey, Amy Dorrit, Bella Wilfer, and Lizzie Hexam.

My picks for most romantic male characters:

Walter Gay, John Harmon, and Eugene Wrayburn.

Sorry that I've been gone so long! I was on an extended photography trip through the southwest, and work has been hectic of late. I am also on a big-time Victorian poetry reading jag too (Christina Rossetti, Elizabeth Barrett Browning, Robt. Browning, Tennyson, Lewis Carroll, etc.).

Cheers! Chris

David, nice to have you aboard; Chris, nice to have you back! :-)

Speaking of Walter Gay, I just read in the intro to "Dombey and Son" that Dickens considered turning Walter into a rotter and giving Florence and unhappy love story. I am so glad he didn't. Walter was too splendid a boy to be a rotter as an adult.

My female vote is miss havisham because she is so effected from compeyson leaving her that she is in a depression for the majority of her life, she weres her wedding dress every day and tries to kill herself.

I know this is an old thread but I love it. If we're talking about Dickens movies, my vote, hands down, is for Arthur Clennam! It helps that Matthew Macfadyen, who played him is downright handsome and sweet!

And I'm sorry for chiming in even later than Nancy, but I love the thread too, so I can't help putting my two cents in.

For me, the two most romantic characters in Dickens will always be, Mr. Richard Swiveller and the Marchioness, Sophronia Sphynx.

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